“Problem with AA is that it is filled with folks you are describing. They either are not real alcoholics or have forgotten how painful trying to get sober is.
I am happy to talk with you if you want to hear what I have to say, sounds like you’ve had an experience with middle of the road soft AA, the program works incredibly well. I will give you my # if you want it, I do pick up the phone.
You say you have worked all 12 steps, maybe your sponsor led you through and passed on what he had to offer, which more than likely wasn’t the clear cut directions in the big book. If you did indeed work all the steps thoroughly you could honestly say the following.
I understand lack of power
I got on my knees and said the 3rd step prayer to a God of my understanding.
I did a thorough 4th step inventory.
I shared all my inventory with another person
I made a list of ALL people I have harmed
I made ammends to ALL people I harmed.
I prayed and meditated daily
I worked with others
That’s what the program is, if you did all this as outlined by the book you would be sober….” – Rob B, explaining to a fellow AA how he failed the program, and how the program cannot fail.
Stinkin' Thinkin' 
February 10, 2010 at 12:26 pm
None of that had very much to do with drinking.
February 10, 2010 at 2:19 pm
aa has very little to do with quitting drinking. It is a religious conversion. Steppers like Rob have been duped.
February 10, 2010 at 2:27 pm
I realize that.
It appears that actually quitting drinking is a personal matter.
February 10, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Sobriety has always been an inside job…it never has nor ever will have anything to do with religion/spirituality. Fortunately most people realize this and leave the “program”.
February 10, 2010 at 5:00 pm
You pick on Rob B? Wow! He posts about once a month.
You must have scrapped really hard to find this one.
I like what he wrote too. Read the Big Book and see what the directions in it say and compare it to what Rob said. It’s the same thing.
So you could have inserted any step worker in here, and here you all are putting it down.
So what have we learned? You all hate A.A. We get it.
February 10, 2010 at 6:54 pm
mcgowdog — I do not hate AA. Why should I? Is there a reason why I should?
is there a reason for you to care what others may think of AA?
February 10, 2010 at 8:57 pm
Cannae1, good to meet you.
I was first commenting on the treatment Rob was getting.
If you don’t like his message, you must not like A.A. too much.
February 10, 2010 at 9:03 pm
mcgowdog, I have no opinion on AA. I do not like it; nor, do I dislike it. People have the right to choose. You chose AA. Other people make different choices.
You have reaon to like AA. Other people have reason to dislike it. You are correct; they are correct.
February 10, 2010 at 8:15 pm
I think they’re just jealous Dawg. The more I read this site the more I get the impression that these clowns can’t or won’t do what they need to in order to turn their lives around.
The best they can do is throw stones at people who have found a way to better themselves and get a little amusement from that.
I don’t think any of the regulars on here would even qualify as an alcoholic in the BB sense of the word anyway.
They might have drunk too much but when they wanted to, they quit. And since they could do it, they assume everyone else can too.
Alot of them are religious fanatics too, atheism is their religion so they react violently to any concept of God or anything higher than their own intellect.
Still, it’s funny how they just can’t leg AA go. They still cling to it, in a sick way. They never tire of thinking about AA. I guess they need a scapegoat to take their minds off themselves.
February 10, 2010 at 8:27 pm
I can’t help you Tony.
February 10, 2010 at 8:42 pm
Yep…jealous…that must be it.
February 10, 2010 at 8:44 pm
yes, madeline, you are clearly jealous.
February 10, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Oh, Madeline…aka Bugsworth, how’s things at Soberrecovery?
February 10, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Why don’t you ask the bedbug girl how many people she’s helped ?
She seems to be very interested in ‘your’ program. Even though she doesn’t beieve in AA.
Ask her how many drunks she’s helped by telling them to “just stop”. Because they never thought of that before they met her and she’s so charismatic and intelligent that they knew she had the answer for them….lol !!!
“I drink too much and my life is a mess.”
“Stop Drinking.”
“OMG, Madaline, I never thought of that….will you marry me ??”
February 10, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Tony, very classy.
February 10, 2010 at 5:38 pm
Rob is an excellent example of a true bb adherent. The aa ideology has become his way of life. While I don’t agree with his views on alcoholism I respect the way in which he conducts himself. You might ask him for some guidance McGow. As someone who yammers on as you do about practicing the aa program your words always undermine your message. I wonder when newcomers hear the advise to find someone’s sobriety they like or to stick with the winners how many look at you.
February 10, 2010 at 6:59 pm
Not so many M. Not too many.
February 10, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Why am I not surprised McGow? Most people, even sick desperate people, can see what you have to offer.
February 12, 2010 at 12:13 am
Mcgowdog, you are some character!
February 25, 2010 at 8:08 pm
I have been sober for about six years thanks to the companionship of A.A., sponsor, 12-steps, and a God of my understanding. I was a “high functioning alcoholic” who was beginning to lose my grasp on the functional aspect. Even So, it was very tough for me to admit I was alcoholic because I had maintained the same line of work for over five years, was wedded, had a home, had fine garments, etc. Once I began to attend A.A. meetings, I encountered others who drank exactly like me, felt like me, and existed like me. That power to connect and identify is what started me on the road to a daily recovery. I never reckoned I could live my life without alcohol. Nowadays I am so thankful to wake up and know what happened the night before, not be loaded with remorse or regret, and feel physically great.