In light of the postings from this side of the street I can’t say I blame them. Anyone trying to defend the abuses that occur during steps 8 and 9 ends up looking like a NAMBLA supporter.
I am very impressed that the author has stuck his neck out as far as he has. Although the pays much tribute to the “show” as my wife and I call it, he has been pointing out serious flaws and coming right up to the edge of being a “hater”. Not that it has stopped the TBs from calling him such, but he does use a great deal of tact and reason to make his point.
As a side note….
The treatment center in our area has stopped requiring patients to attend 12 step meetings. They may go if they desire even if the desire is to leave the center for an hour or two. I have been toying with the idea of starting a RR meeting in our area. In retrospect it’s how I quit, I just didn’t know it at the time. If I do start one I’ll have to make a commitment to stay with it for a predetermined period of time. I left 12 step last April and for several years prior to that was very vocal about the manipulation, coercion and belittling that runs rampant. Long time “friends” who even agreed with me cannot talk with me for fear they will lose their status or rank. When my name is brought up, as it has been, there is an uncomfortable silence as they cannot explain out loud why I no longer attend. The few that I do see about town ask me why I left and I tell them. Surprisingly, there have been no rumors that I’m drinking, probably because my wife still attends infrequently. Dispelling their prophecy, I remain abstinate, happy and fearless.
Uberdog, could you elaborate on that some? I think it’s a good subject for inquiry, if RR is, as you say, not “available outside its own realm.” I don’t know much about it, so I don’t know what you mean. What’s up with RR?
RR is an internet or in person seminar. Your choice. While the concept of AVRT (Addictive Voice Recognition Therapy) is simple and practical it is also copyrighted.
I submit this information to all in an effort to make others aware of the availability of the program of Rational Recovery with the intent that it be used for informational purposes only and not for treatment of any condition whatsoever.
(That oughta do it)
I think the link to the presentation would actually be enough information to get most people headed into something close to the right direction at any rate.
Integrated with an normal inventory process as practiced by the general population as well as familial and community support you would indeed have a rational means of quitting a substance abuse issue.
As I said before, I figured out something very similar on my own accord. I spent too long in AA but was never was a one day at a time kinda guy. My goal was to never drink again. Anything less was unacceptable and dangerous for me. I learned the “tricks” of addiction. Getting angry, confused, heartbroken or anxious so that I would feel the need to drink, whether that condition actually existed or if it was an elaboration by my addictive voice or both. When I learned to recognize it, it became easier to deny the addiction.
We have a mental health “stabilization” unit here in my city. I have seen more than my fair share of what happens when patients are encouraged to go off their medication in favor of diet, excercise and of course a spiritual solution.
It’s tragic and it’s not just the patient who suffers.